Gregg Thurman on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'IMO, this isn’t the announcement everyone is looking for, it requires some deep thinking to understand its importance. That isn’t going happen until revenue starts climbing. Yeah, AAPL is down a bit from yesterday, but it continues to trade within the channel I recently described. No worries here.'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'Thanks Daniel, That’s the magic of advanced packaging – allowing mixes of generations of silicon technology, or ‘nodes’ on one package. And this magic is really hard. Tim raised concerns about advanced nodes in the last (his last) earnings call. This may also address the question of whether Apple should get into the memory chip business. No, they want their firepower on the highest value area, chip design. Memory, like all commodities, is subject to wide price fluctuations over the long term.'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'In response to Roger’s question John Gruber probably nailed it. “Bend over”.'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'Wow. Dick’s Sporting Goods is off $53.84 or 30.02% at $125.50. Quarterly results came on below expectations and the company cut its full fiscal year outlook. Nike is off 3.35% at $39.39 in sympathy. Nike has been working off of multi-year lows. Last September Dick’s acquires Foot Locker. This may highlight challenges in the sector. Our economy remains dynamic with winners and losers in every market.'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'Into the final hour of today’s trading and Apple is underperforming the broad market despite the announcement of the release of new Mac products. Apple is off $1.96 at $308.38. The four major indexes are currently in the green. Moderna and Merck continue to power higher with Moderna leading the S&P 500 in performance today. The shares are up 14.66% at $159.25. Merck is up 3.54% at $156. AMD has jumped $23.25 or 5.09% at $479.99. Among the financials Goldman Sachs is up 2.24% at $1,059.49 and Morgan Stanley has gained 1.24% at $216.71. We’ll soon see how today’s session finishes out…'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'Thank you Daniel. I asked that question a while back when memory was becoming an issue. Hopefully someone will respond to your query, whereas mine got crickets.'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'I’ve been thinking exactly this for most of this year, Gregg. At what point do government leaders who are being asked to give massive tax cuts and subsidies to the hyperscalers to build their massive energy- and water-sucking datacenters clue in to the fact that that model is in serious jeopardy.'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'I asked Gemini “does apple purchase memory from third party vendors for their SOC?” Yes, absolutely. While Apple designs the custom processor architecture (the CPU, GPU, and Neural Engine logic) in-house, they do not manufacture their own memory chips (DRAM). Instead, Apple purchases the physical memory dies from major third-party semiconductor manufacturers. The primary suppliers that provide these high-speed memory components include: Micron (a major historical and current primary supplier for many of Apple’s devices) SK Hynix Samsung How It All Comes Together Procurement: Apple buys raw memory chips (such as advanced LPDDR5X DRAM) from these third-party vendors. Advanced Packaging: Apple ships its custom-designed silicon processors alongside these third-party memory chips to contract manufacturers—most notably TSMC. Integration: Using specialized packaging techniques (like InFO-PoP or Integrated Fan-Out Package-on-Package), TSMC physically mounts and interconnects the third-party memory directly onto or right next to the Apple processor die. This creates the final unified system-on-a-chip module that goes into an iPhone, iPad, or Mac, combining Apple’s proprietary processor design with mass-produced memory hardware from global semiconductor leaders.'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'If I understand your question properly and if I understand Apple’s Mx SOC correctly, Apple’s SOC includes everything except memory which is added on during the packaging phase/process so memory vendors will still be involved. What I know I don’t understand is why memory isn’t part of Apple’s whole SOC to begin with. If they can design and build the current SOC, is memory that much more difficult to design and build into the whole widget?'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'If these machines are configured with SoC unified memory, where will the memory venders fit into this? I don’t think they will. Ergo, increased Apple gross margin.'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'If last year’s Mac mini and Mac Studio were in such demand that they were up to two months in back order, what is going to be the lead times for these “AI” monsters? Will Apple cancel last year’s mini and Studio backlog of orders and give them delivery priority if the orders are upgraded to the new models? These new Mac models appear to be a direct attack on data center “AI” models. I’m now waiting for the other shoe to drop, that would be a customize able LLM that slides into a Mac Studio networked via a Baltric powered Mac server. Has Apple secretly developed its own LLM (to run atop of the Mac Studio) with a SIRI front end or is it about to announce the purchase of a competing LLM with a SIRI front end installed on it? No data center expense, immediate positive cash flow, as the user exchanges ongoing token fees for one time hardware expense and complete user privacy. I expect an Apple announcement along those lines when the Baltric server is announced (2028?). Immediately data center demand for memory will disappear. Apple won’t lower prices because consumers will be hooked into the superior “AI” solution (complete with privacy), that costs less. IBM Business Solutions will become very busy installing these solutions/systems. Goodbye Nvidia, and all other “AI” players.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'I do have a thought: How will you type on this darned thing? Because I have big, clunky hands, I have to either type on my iPhone with one hand and essentially “move” the iPhone with the other to get an angle (the source of a LOT of my typing errors, btw) or I have to try to use two hands and type with my two index fingers – really tough, ergonomically challenging and literally tiring on the iPhone Max. And it won’t be helped by the increased weight, IMO. So you’ll basically need to either fold it back to an iPhone to type anything or prop it on a flat surface like presently with an iPad, and if you want to have an inclined surface to improve that ability, you’ll have to have some kind of gizmo that’s attached to the “back” that swings out – or have something attached to a protective cover that swings out… …and now I’m thinking you’ll need a second screen on the outside, adding even more complexity, cost, and weight… Nope. A foldable iPad I can see, with a single foldable screen. A foldable iPhone sounds a lot like a boat anchor….'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - '$18,299 or $40/month for the most loaded Mac Studio. 512gb ram option can’t be ordered for a month so unknown how much that adds over 256gb config now in my cart.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'I know that ear… Really great to see you at the dinner, Robert – along with about 30 other compatriots!'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'Thanks, Dan! I was about to pass on the same info…. So Gurman literally ran a story that Apple itself ran – on the VERY SAME DAY. Great scoop! Hope Gurman paid through the nose for the info…. /s “Eh, what a maroon!” – Bugs Bunny https://apple.news/A37SuA3tjPRm9tPtSUEx6LA'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'I think the critical question is: How well does this thing work as a pocket phone? How thin? How light? How much battery life? I think Jerry’s hypothesis is intriguing. But the opposite could be truer: That the foldable is actually a very weak replacement for an iPhone …and a very weak replacement for an iPad as well. Two weak things do not add up to something strong. I love the idea of being able to unfold my beloved iPhone into something larger. But I have a hard time imagining how that could be accomplished without making a very sub-optimal product. (Case in point: iPhone Air.) I hope Apple has figured out something dazzling here. Based on the iPhone Air, I’m not betting on it.'
on Errol Brandt: A tale of two awesome families of Apple chips (video) - 'Definitely a worthwhile video to view. The next video I saw, MSFT broke OpenAI, was also very interesting. The evil empire may not be totally asleep. The video also talks about other problems with OpenAI as a company.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'Good discussion All. Hypothetical. Assume 100 percent of the Fold purchases come at the expense of a purchase of a different iPhone, ie. 100 percent cannibalization. So Apple makes its 35 percent profit on a $2000 dollar purchase instead of a $1100 purchase? I think I can live with that.'
on Errol Brandt: A tale of two awesome families of Apple chips (video) - 'This morning Apple announced the release new versions of the Mac Mini and Mac Studio, aimed at AI developers. The Mini comes with the all-new M6 processor or the M5 Pro chip. The M6 version comes with up to 32GB of memory, and the M5 Pro comes with up to 64GB. The Mac Studio has M5 Max or new M5 Ultra processors. As of Monday, if you ordered a base Mac Mini, it takes more than a month to arrive, and the Mac Studio takes 10 to 12 weeks to arrive.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - '“Use case” matters. Tim Cook seemed hollow and cold in his presentations. Jobs always sold the use case. He *told you* why you needed one and got you excited about it. Cook never did that. He just told us how scored *he* was. Now it’s up to Ternus. This will be a huge test for him and one I’ll be watching closely.'
on Mark Gurman: New Mac Mini any day now, AirPods with eyes not until next year - 'Apple on Tuesday announced new Mac Mini and Mac Studio models with updated chips and other improvements for artificial intelligence applications. The announcement shows how desktop computers have become strategically important for Apple as a foothold in the AI development world and as a showcase for the AI capabilities of its chips. The Mac Mini can now be configured with two new chips, the M6 and M5 Pro, and now starts at $899, versus $799 for the prior model.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'Enjoy owning the latest new thing. As the owner of a Vision Pro gathering dust I think I’ll pass on this shiny object.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - '” Would love to be told I’m wrong. “ You aren’t wrong, and thank you for pointing out the kind of discussions we should be having, instead of the one we are having. Terse or not, I enjoyed your post.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'I’m with Ted Kluger here. ….Sure. That pretty much every one here can buy one is nice… but so what? It may be a great product for the upwardly mobile. Vision Pro was a great product for the upwardly mobile. But after the upwardly mobile have sated their early adopter needs, who’s left to buy this product? There is an ever worsening cost of living issue compounded by RAMageddon, that is undercutting the potential consumer base, not to mention idiotic tariff regimes and another pointless, endless war that will drive up logistics cost and eat away at disposable income. As a subscriber in this self-cited savvy investor group… I want to know what this is going to do to AAPL. What is our collective and considered opinion about how it affects revenue and EPS? Which markets will buy it and what will it cannibalise? How many can they may with component constraints? Personally I think there are serious issues on both the supply and demand side. Would love to be told I’m wrong. (apologies if this comes across a bit terse)'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'I’m perfectly happy if Jerry gets the last laugh – we all win. My only comment would be: if you have a strong conviction on something AAPL related, then, sure, get it out there on this forum, BUT don’t harp on it endlessly… please.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'Of course BMW drivers don’t look down on the smaller vehicles. The M3 *defines* the ultimate driving machine: nimble and quick! And, yes, of course smaller than the 5, 6, 7, and 8 (don’t see many of the latter around anymore. I think the 1s and 2s are kinda cute. And also, a 2024 M3 is a fair bit bigger than the old E30s of yesteryear. To me, though, the idea of “versatility” in a Cadillac as an SUV just seems silly. I can’t imagine one of those things ever driving over a curb, much less off-road. Roomy? Yes. Practically a conference room. Comfortable? I am sure they are. Practical? Meh. (The M3 does not go off-road, either. Stiletto heels do not belong in mud or even barely grass – though I do have a few near-horror stories.)'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'I’m buying one. Period. Simply because it is the first of a new category, and Apple pays me well enough to buy it. Doesn’t hurt that my iPhone 15 Pro Max is getting a bit long in the tooth. I think, as others have suggested, that it is an interesting use-case. I do consume content on my iPhone. I would like a little more space for that, but I don’t usually have my iPad with me. I don’t feel any shame for my technology “man-bag”, but I just don’t always take it with me. I almost *always* have my iPhone with me (exceptions are generally body-maintenance functions: exercise, sleep, etc). To have my always and everywhere device be more enjoyable and usable is an easy win for me. This isn’t rocket science. Geaux, Jerry …'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - '“ Kind of an empty last laugh, I’d say, considering that the foldable skeptics of 3.0 will profit by exactly the same amount as the pro-folders” That was exactly my immediate thought. But on 2nd thought, I’m thinking the ones that stop laughing first are not 3.0 members (Apple longs), but those Apple critics who short Apple or not own it.'
on Premarket: Apple is green - '@Gregg Once the new iPhone comes out we will see it get lots of press because of the new Siri AI. Everyone will want to be out there with their test results.'
on Apple foldable: Jerry W. Doyle is prepared to have the last laugh - 'I’m very happy for Jerry. It’s great when persistence pays off.'


