Romeo Esparrago on First in line for the iPhone 18 in Melbourne (video) - 'Very smart of to make a micro-music video ad of the iP18Pro by K-Pop BlackPink’s Rose (of hit “Apt” w/Bruno Mars). https://youtu.be/1WLqGs7c_yA?si=itcO6IB2o2n6v7_J'
on BofA: Sweet trade-ins are a tailwind for the iPhone 18 Pro series - 'I will be doing my annual trade-ins in January and with only.'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'We will be copying your lead, SactoJoe 🙂 but come January…'
on BofA: Sweet trade-ins are a tailwind for the iPhone 18 Pro series - 'T-Mobile had a great trade-in, but they want me to migrate to a more expensive plan. Like PED said, they get theirs in the end.'
on Evercore hikes its Apple target $15 to $380 - '1) doesn’t anybody recognize that if the duo sold as the same number of Airs, the revenue would be more than double? 2) in Q3CY2025, Apple sold, per Omdia, 56.5M iPhones. iPhone revenue for that quarter was $49.025B, giving an ASP of $868. If Evercore expects an ASP increase of 25-28%, that’s $1085 to $1111. That may not be for the full Q3 quarter. 3) even with flat sales in Q3, iPhone revenues could jump from $45.03B to at least $55-$60B, jumps of 22% to $33% 4) “old” iPhones upgrading means A. iPhone 11 2019 7 yrs B. iPhone 12 2020 6 yrs C. iPhone 13 2021 5 yrs D. iPhone 14 2022 4 yrs E. Anybody still using an iPhone XS, XR, X, 8, 7/7+, Mini’s and SE models. That’s at least 250M iPhones right there along with those who would upgrade at 3 yrs or less. 5) what this also means is there would be a lot of trade in or secondhand used phones entering the market, just like the iPhone 17 series has created. This means more used and potentially refurbished models hitting the second hand market, challenging cheaper-but now more expensive budget smartphones, especially in some price sensitive areas. I would not be surprised if many price conscious users decide to buy used iPhones instead of more expensive budget phones, assuming batteries are fresh. The install base keeps growing.'
on BofA: Sweet trade-ins are a tailwind for the iPhone 18 Pro series - 'Bought my 18 Pro Max today. And got this interesting wrinkle: $12 a month for a 12-month lease; $18 for a 24-month lease. Why? Because of the trade-in. If I remove the trade-in, the leases are $62 for the 12-month and $48 for the 24-month (what I expected. The longer lease should be cheaper). But if I add the trade-in back, I get the phone for only $12 a month … if I take the short time period. Looking at the deal, it is because they deduct the entire trade-in value from the cost but spread it over the term of the lease. So a $500 trade-in has the entire $500 taken in the 1st year. So less has to be financed in the lease. But only $250 each year when leased for 2 years. So sure, I’ll have to send it in and upgrade in a year, but getting the 18 pro max for $12 a month is a steal.'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'In today’s The Trader column from Barron’s, Alex Rosenberg suggests, “Stocks Are Resilient, Fairly Priced, and Probably Getting Ready to Rally.” https://apple.news/ATnqAZimSQwW1t4JOOEomuA Personally, I expect equities to continue to rise as long as earnings growth remains strong. That doesn’t mean share prices go higher in a straight line.'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - '“Apple’s recently launched iPhone 18 is seeing “muted” initial wait times in major global markets for the technology giant’s first foldable smartphone, UBS Securities [David Vogt] said in a note e-mailed Friday.” There you are, David, right on cue this morning. Vogt, one of the perpetual AAPL low-ballers currently has a Hold rating with a $296 target. No surprise. He also seems to think the Duo’s price may cause problems with sales. “Sell” rating forthcoming'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'Yes. Price includes GST of 10%. Aus consumer law says a device must be effective for the term of its reasonable useful life. Apple has taken that to mean 2 years for most of their products. Apple’s explicit warranty is 12 months but they honour consumer rights and then some. Bring in a 25 month old product and say you noticed something wrong after 23 months and if you aren’t rude you might get your product replaced on the spot. Technically these laws apply to android devices too. But as many androids are bought in supermarkets, small shops, Amazon etc it is too difficult to get a phone replaced 2 years later, so I assume they are just trashed. So yes Aussies pay a bit more than just the exchange rate and gst but they get Ritz Carlton service at an Apple Store and longer device life. For me the extra money of buying in Australia is a no-brainer.'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'They’ll say “Apple is doomed. They mis-managed not just the demand and supply chain for the Duo, but also the scalability of their website.” There is NO SCENARIO where Apple wins with a lot of those people…'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'What will all these analysts write once the Duo is not only sold in seconds, but the web site crashed due to overwhelming demand. My gut tells me that Apple has been preparing for an order onslaught of these Duo devices and have produced far more than anyone is predicting will be sold. I still remember all the articles mocking the Apple Air Pods as: “Nobody will want to be seen walking around with Q-Tips in their ears.” How did that prediction turn out? About as well as Apple entering the streaming wars will be a disaster!'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'Aussies are complaining heavily about the Duo’s cost, around AU$3500, but aren’t your prices forced to include GST taxes plus a mandatory charge for warranty and support AND other fees? Yes, Apple has to build/add in foreign exchange and currency fluctuation buffers plus operational costs (logistics, store, online, support and repair) for the entire quarter if not the whole sales year, so most international regions are charged between 10% to 25% above a straight exchange rate. But apparently it hasn’t deterred iPhone 18 Pro model buyers?'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'Upvoted. I hope Apple keeps offering low-end models, even if they delay upgrades right now due to memory shortages. Meanwhile, used iPhones range in price from $90 to $850 (per AI) and account for 150M units annually.'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'Closed red, as expected, but only about 0.4%. For a Triple Witching day, that’s danged good! And volume as I type is about 67 M, which is actually decent, and definitely contributed to AAPL not getting railroaded by options houses trying to lock in their Max Pain, ie, maximum profit.'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'We are now in the final 30 minutes of trading for the day and the week. The S&P 500 and the NASDAQ Composite have just poked into the green on the day with the S&P 500 up 0.03% and the NASDAQ Composite higher by 0.17%. Apple remains in the red $0.82 or 0.24% at $336.18. Apple closed last Friday at $332.87. Overall it’s been a good week for the Mac maker. Apple supplier Broadcom is up $8.46 or 2.44% at $355.76. Let’s see how the market closes out the week at the closing bell.'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'Just adding my 2 cents: ”Few people have analyzed why Apple has done this” What if Apple took a long at iPhone sales, and discovered that the more expensive models were expanding and the non-Pro models were shrinking. Needing production capacity for the more expensive Duo, Apple decided to delay non-Pro deliveries. Could this be a signal that the least expensive iPhones are being phased out, as Apple doesn’t need to remain somewhat competitive to Android, who are having their own memory induced profit issues and no where to go.'
on Demand for Apple's Phone 18 Pros 'better than feared' - 'who feared? I seriously would like to know. I can bet nobody here feared, or fear, slowing demand. Next they are going to say the Duo sells better than they feared. Who are these people?'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'Getting my blue ProMax today- already wearing my new Ultra!'
on First in line for the iPhone 18 in Melbourne (video) - 'And back to his parents basement he goes!'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'From other reports, more people are also upgrading their phones sooner, likely because of Siri AI. And there really is not anything else to get for the holiday season (only a lucky few will get their Duo before Christmas I suspect). So while the high end early adopters may move to Duo, a lot of people who had bought lower priced iPhones before may be buying the 18 Pro/Max. I wonder how many are using Apple Upgrade to deal with the price hit? Also, as I mentioned elsewhere, burgundy is a very important color in China, representing sophistication and a grounded confidence (according to Google). It will be interesting to see Chinese sales.'
on First in line for the iPhone 18 in Melbourne (video) - 'Thanks for the description, Richard, and upvoted! Now maybe a few will avoid the clickbait and not help Mr. Musk build his power base….'
on Demand for Apple's Phone 18 Pros 'better than feared' - 'I’m looking for China sales to be huge. I know red is an important color for celebrations there but Google tells me this about burgundy: “In contemporary Chinese color psychology and design, deeper wine reds are often associated with elegance, maturity, and depth of character rather than just fiery, loud celebration. While bright, fiery red dominates high-energy festivals like Lunar New Year and weddings, burgundy is frequently chosen in modern apparel, interior design, and branding to project a more subtle, understated luxury and grounded confidence.” People in China will want to show off their new burgundy iPhones, demonstrating their maturity, sophistication, depth of character while showing grounded confidence. Apple is so smart..'
on First in line for the iPhone 18 in Melbourne (video) - 'I hear you, but I did watch it out of curiosity. An obvious online influencer was smart enough to be at the front of a huge line, was first in when it opened, wore a burgundy jacket for the occasion, had someone record his entrance, high-fived the gauntlet created by the staff, got his burgundy phone, and stood in front of promotional Apple screens. All to stirring orchestral music. Very well done (wonder what phone was doing the recording?), but also a bit overproduced. It’ll get a huge number of views. Maybe it was a little cynical but I kinda puffed out my chest a little. No other company would ever see this kind of spectacle for a phone purchase.'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'I am totally happy if Apple sales of the Pro models are higher than last year in this new release pattern. Few people have analyzed why Apple has done this completely and the company hasn’t given a reason that I know of. I am going to say it is due to supply chain issues mostly caused by ram supply costs to maintain all the product releases at the same time. There may be other supply reasons as well. They are usually a bit stingy in creating new capacity before judging sales. Once burned twice shy. Apple is choosing prioritizing the more profitable devices first. They didn’t try and shoehorn the new Duo into the same release dates as the Pro models either. Of course many will buy Pro models now instead of base models since monthly purchase plans are not that much more expensive for the new models than previous years. This is a different version of Good, Better, Best as different generations of models and different form factors will now have different capabilities and different price points than previous years. By the end of the product cycle when Apple has introduced and have for sale all the 18 models and the Duo we will see if they have expanded their own market as well as average selling prices or not. Of course everyone wants to know after the first day of sales what the rest of the year will look like.'
on Evercore hikes its Apple target $15 to $380 - 'You describe me (compare to phones several years old). And not only the incremental part but also the added benefit of Siri AI. I’ve held back upgrading the last year waiting to see how Siri AI would impact it. I’m excited by that. While initially excited by the Duo (I think its form factor will have a big impact), I love the photography improvement of the 18 Pro/Max. I went back and looked and I do use the telephoto quite a bit. For me the camera will be a big reason I’m getting the 18 Pro/Max.'
on Premarket: Apple was green, turned red - 'Following yesterday’s strong advances in prices, the market appears to taking a bit of a breather heading into the weekend. All four major indexes are definitely in the red as we enter afternoon trading in New York. Close to 75% of S&P 500 components are trading below yesterday’s closing prices. Apple is currently off $2.45 or 0.73% at $334.55.'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'Upvoted, PED! Donna will be waiting for one. I’m sticking with the top end iPhone (I buy new each year) for the better camera, although I dropped to less RAM and went with the 1 year lease to save a few shekels. BTW, watch out for the Triple Witching riptides today, folks….'
on Demand for Apple's Phone 18 Pros 'better than feared' - '“better than feared” – by ANALysts whose view of the world is constrained by the degree to which they have to bend over and peer into their own dark places… I haven’t seen actual data, but it’s my sense that Apple has raised prices substantially less than Android high end equivalents.'
on Gene Munster: Apple splits the difference - 'Agreed, PED. I for one will be getting a Duo! First iPhone in a long time that I’m truly excited about.'


