George Flannery on China Renaissance raises its Apple target $185 to $425 - 'The most disappointing aspect of Apple 3.0 is that Jerry is no longer presenting his thoughts on Apple. I truly hope this will change. I miss his comments!'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'If NVDA Asia revenue turns out to be mostly China proxies, then that will be a problem moving forward. Jensen wanted China restrictions lifted, and now we know why. If he lied to his board and the executive team about his extramarital affairs, then why should we trust him on anything else? Furthermore, will those NVDA outflows become AAPL inflows?'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'Yes, I have waning confidence in NVDA (and no stocks of theirs), so I thought maybe that high volume was people selling. But of course, that means people are buying, too, as was pointed out. There must always be an equal number of each, I suppose, so my whole idea was a bit off. But I sure didn’t see why people would want to jump in just now, when Jensen is in obvious spy trouble combined with the threat of an overall AI bubble deflation. NVDA seems risky at the moment, and indeed so far this year it is down 8% (before today’s after hours decline).'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/google-rolls-gemini-ai-voice-201340171.html “Google is expanding its reach across Apple Inc’s (NASDAQ:AAPL) ecosystem by bringing its Gemini artificial intelligence assistant directly to Apple CarPlay. The integration allows drivers to conduct hands-free, two-way conversations with Gemini Live through vehicle dashboard displays, with all voice exchanges automatically syncing back to the iOS app.” Hmmm… and does Siri just sit silently somewhere, sulking? Or is it a Siri mask over the Gemini body? Or maybe Siri drives the car off the road, to get rid of Gemini…'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'Adding to Raj’s post. There are reports that the NVIDIA board is meeting to consider Jensen’s ouster. The stock is currently down >9%. There is also talk of an additional sex scandal and talk that a significant share of sales went illegally to China. Talk about whether the board itself could be legally liable. Lot’s of confusing stories that will get sorted out soon. @157 the market cap is <140T.'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'The gap between market caps of Apple and Nvidia will get much wider tomorrow. I posted in the other thread that the idea of people buying into NVDA today might backfire on any negative news about the CEO. And some news just came out. Jensen’s a player! NVDA falls to 160 AH.'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'Indeed. There are times when AUD movements has far greater impact than movements in AAPL. Certainly adds a layer of prognostication complexity. I need to find a trading platform that lets me trade in real time. I have been a buy and hold type for the last 26 years, having only sold off 5%. So when the time comes to sell(or buy) I don’t mind having an all-nighter to make that call.'
on China Renaissance raises its Apple target $185 to $425 - 'Hooray to Jerry. The vindication is only just beginning.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - 'Per Gemini: Stock Behavior Around Ex-Dividend Dates • Price Drop vs. Payout Size: Because AAPL’s quarterly dividend is small ($0.25 to $0.27 per share) relative to a stock trading in the $200–$350+ range, the mechanical ex-dividend price adjustment is typically a fraction of a percent (less than 0.1%). • Recovery Time: Historical tracking data (such as via Dividend.com) shows that AAPL frequently recovers its ex-dividend drop within 0 to a few days, and in many quarters the stock price noise completely overwhelms the tiny dividend gap. • Pre- and Post-Week Trend: There is no strong statistical edge or directional drift (up or down) unique to the 1-week window before or after AAPL’s ex-dividend dates; performance during those weeks closely mirrors general market momentum rather than income-seeking flows.“ I don’t know if Gregg has any better data over his two decades of AAPL data, but AAPL price appreciation is significantly higher than any short term wiggles around ex-dividend dates IMO.'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'Only selling small parcels of aapl with each parcel being .75% higher than the last parcel (in AUD) is working well for me. Selling so often (with a fluctuating aussie $) teaches you a lot too. 80% of my trades happen in the first 15 min of the day or the last 30 mins. I set 2 trades. An ambitious sell price for the first 15 minutes where I noticed there can be some crazy swings either way. Sometimes you get lucky and that’s how I might get my .75% increase done. I set an even more ambitious trade for end of the day, based on the volume multiplier that seems to happen in the last 30 minutes. If it is selling pressure then that can easily knock $2 or $3 off and might be useful if you are looking to buy. If it is buying pressure the effect doesn’t seem to be as great as selling pressure, but as in today it can add that $1 to $2 that makes it a double happy day wth successful morning and afternoon trades. This afternoon was helped with a falling AUD. As much as I hate inflation renewed US inflation is working out well for me with a strengthening USD. But then again I don’t want too much USD appreciation because of “forex headwinds”. It’s a complicated world.'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'Another excerpt from Horace’s excellent article “The Last Consumer Company”: (Popping this in here to hopefully give it – and Horace Dediu – more visibility.) “There are some significant implications. Apple is the last and only consumer play, moreover… There is an unhealthy concentration of value in B2B businesses. Look at the list closely and the number of semiconductor and cloud businesses. They are enjoying a boom due to enormous reallocation of cash flows away from shareholders and to suppliers of silicon. This is not sustainable. Consumers are fundamentally the source of value but there are no businesses apart from Apple concentrating on them. This is a sign of fragility as there are fewer purchase decisions being relied upon. I maintain that Apple has to earn the purchase decisions of hundreds of millions of users every year. A B2B company may need to earn 5 to 1000 decisions each year. Nvidia perhaps 5 and Microsoft perhaps a few tens of thousands. This is not a sign of strength. Smaller consumer brands have withered. They are not investment-grade. Note the absence of consumer products companies but also of brands. Nike is dead. Netflix, Coca-Cola, and other perishable products are severely depleted of value. The auto industry is in shambles. Transportation is chronically unwell. Communications and entertainment are impoverished. Apple therefore embodies the last standing consumer exposure for investors. Perhaps one can make a thesis that consumers don’t matter but I would argue the opposite. They matter more than ever but there are no ways to bet on this unless you bet on Apple. This might explain the expanded multiple. Capital has few options if you want to avoid exposure to B2B concentration.” Read that last sentence again if you think Apple is presently overvalued….'
on The bull case for Apple - 'I agree with your last point Kirk, buybacks at Apple’s current market cap are an extremely inefficient use of cash. I’d rather see that used for acquisitions or dividends as a way to return closer to parity value to shareholders. If a 50% ‘haircut’ did eventuate then sure revert to buybacks.'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'Can someone explain this in plain English? I think it’s positive, but I’d like that verified. Thanks! Excerpt From “Apple’s record run ignites options flurry — Watch Options Action live” Oliver Renick CNBC https://stocks.apple.com/Ay_jsztQvSV6kjsmgH1EXMA This material may be protected by copyright. “For more options-trading reaction to the rally, click the link at the top of the page for Options Action LIVE featuring CNBC contributors Michael Khouw and Brent Kochuba alongside host Oliver Renick beginning 2:30PM ET. Jim Cramer is often found of saying that you own Apple, you don’t trade it. Days like Wednesday explain why. Despite a brief earnings dip, the stock shrugged off the biggest tech selloff since Covid last week, a bear market in semiconductors, and renewed anxiety around interest-rate hikes, to extend its 2026 rally to 30% and a new all-time high. Apple’s resilience continues to catch the attention of options traders looking for a safe harbor in tech. Almost 900,000 options traded on Apple in the first half of the session Wednesday – almost 500,000 calls and 370,000 puts. Traders piled into puts ahead of the company’s earnings coming into this month, but as the stock bounced back, the put/call open-interest ratio fell from 0.95 to 0.87, with daily volumes flowing toward calls.”'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'As exciting as this recent price increase in Apple is based on earnings and the extraordinary demand for the new Duo, this run up coupled with the recent short position of the stock has me even more excited: Short interest was (139.749) Million as of August 31, 2026. 3.53 Short interest was (128.753) Million as of September 15, 2026. 2.85 Short interest was (120.763) Million as of September 30, 2026. 3.02 Short interest was (131.591) Million as of October 15, 2026. 3.70 Short interest was (144.791) Million as of October 30, 2026. 3.36'
on Apple soars to $355.63, second record close in as many days - 'I had a sell order in for a couple of days at $355.98. but it stalled at .88 so at 3:59pm I changed it to $355.78 and got hit at 3:59.59pm cutting it fine indeed now I go to work with a secret smile on my face. #cheerstothelongs'
on Premarket: Apple is red - 'Closing price today 355.63 Up a little over 7 dollars from yesterday’s close. About 9 dollars up from “Premarket: Apple is Red ” number. A market cap gain from yesterday’s close of about 101.5 Billion dollars. Tomorrow the stock goes ex dividend. To be paid Nov 16. I always wonder how the stock will do around the dividend payout. The number is pretty small compared to the share price but it is interesting to see if the stock continues to rise or whether the stock sells off . Payout amount for the quarter is 3.93 Billion. Total payout of dividend revenue is about $15.72 billion this year. Still being dwarfed by buybacks during the quarter.'
on The bull case for Apple - 'Gregg, Apple had a significant iCloud connection outage yesterday for several hours. That was likely the cause of your problems.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - '”Is it because people want out of NVDA?” For every seller there’s a buyer.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - 'Well a starting red day turned very positive for AAPL and 2/3rd of the major tech stocks after neocloud provider Coreweave’s earnings came in and they gave positive guidance (for now). That lifted a number of AI industry companies and renewed strength in NVDA despite its CEO investigation. AAPL stood strong all session despite relatively low volume of 31.4M shares to close at $355.63 up +7.12 (+2.04%), another All Time Closing High (ATCH), and near the close flirted with $356, establishing a new All Time IntraDay High (ATIDH) of $355.90. Apparently all that NVDA and AI company money isn’t going to the sidelines but is being sloshed around rather violently and quickly, seeking the next leg up. Other tech winners: Chip stocks AVGO +$13 +3.99% MU +$86 +11.9% (Though still down -21%/1 mo) SKHY +$12.59 +9.71% Samsung +3.57% INTC +$4.37 +7.5% (Though still down -40%/1 mo) NVDA +$4.93 +2.9% (Though still down -24%/1 mo) TSMC +$16.87 +4.25% (Though down -8.8%/1 mo) ORCL +$10.40 +8.8% (Though still down -9%/1 mo) TSLA +$11.06 +2.9% GOOGL +$6.07 +2.11% Losers today: MSFT -$12.03, -2.26% META -$12.62, -1.97% AMZN -$4.70, -1.74% SPCX -$3.34, -2.33% Cheers to the Longs! Apple is likely back in the market for buybacks again but volume today wasn’t very high.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - '”AAPL is a dollar away from a new intraday ATH as I write this.” Thanks for your efforts Raj. As it turns out, today was the 5th session out of the most recent six, that AAPL had a print above $352.xx. Speaks well for my $345/$347.50 Call Spreads that expire next week.'
on China Renaissance raises its Apple target $185 to $425 - '@Jerry Doyle: At a minimum Jerry, give us the update as to the current valuation of the Apple portfolio you turned over to your daughter. Last report was at the Apple 3.0 dinner in Palo Alto. It was an extraordinary sum back then. As the bank robber character asked in “Dirty Harry”: “I gots to know.” Be well and keeping hiking.'
on China Renaissance raises its Apple target $185 to $425 - '@Jerry Doyle – Like many others here, I miss your posts. Do come back.'
on The bull case for Apple - 'Hi, Kirk. My opinion: Apple cannot be pigeonholed, and trying to force a valuation threshold on it just won’t work. I’ve seen this coming. No surprise it’s finally arriving. I’ve said at length why I think this, so I’ll leave it at that. Nice seeing you at the dinner!'
on China Renaissance raises its Apple target $185 to $425 - 'Apple is, by definition, a plodder. But OMM (Oh My Maker) does it know the right direction to plod! That’s important when you have as much mass and thus momentum as Apple. Key proof: It found itself plodding in the wrong direction with Smart Siri, and spent two years changing course. It was a rare glimpse behind the curtain to see how the sausage is made Apple yet again is approaching a 40+ P/E at the same time we see its competition stumbling.There’s a reason for that, and the reason is all part of the Apple Way, which is focused like a laser on giving its customers the very best it can, and NOT ripping them off. But it takes time to build out a system dedicated to premium quality. Android, of course, took the short cut, and built, not for quality, but for quantity. And now that decision is catching up with them, and with all the short-cutters and get-rich-quick, screw-the-customer bunch. Horace is right; Apple’s a consumer company, and one of the few still proudly standing. The tortoise and the hare, indeed….'
on The bull case for Apple - 'I don’t want to be a debbie downer, but Apple stock price seems extremely bubbly right now. I don’t see any way the underlying fundamentals support the current valuation. If I had to bet, I think the best case scenario is that Apple market cap stays around where it is +/- 10% for the next 12-24 months. Downside worst case scenario is a 50% haircut. Risk reward equation seems to be much more weighted to the downside. Just my opinion. Would love to be wrong, but I really struggle to see how earnings growth supports share price growth much beyond a $5.2 Trillion market cap, especially now that share buybacks have negligible impact.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - 'You have it the other way around. NVDA has a very high volume today and is up since the market opened not because people want out but rather they are buying into NVDA with the hope that the CEO’s issue might die down or get resolved and that this is a good (re)entry point. IMO, this idea could backfire if the spy lady lets slip anything perceived as negative.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - 'It’s not inflation that’s the problem, when it comes to the AI hyerpscalers and “neocloud” companies like Coreweave. It’s the bond market and these companies’ skyrocketing debt and spiking credit default swap yields that are the problem. A few weeks ago, the yield to maturity on Coreweave’s 9.75% bond due in 2031 was 15.78%.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - 'Yes, it’s noise, as I know good ship AAPL is firing on all cylinders. It’s just interesting. Now, 3 hours in, Nvidia has a volume greater than 10X that of AAPL for the day. Is it because people want out of NVDA? I’m just curious.'
on Premarket: Apple is red - '…or that DELL and MU are up nearly 13% when AAPL is up less than 2%…? Ignore the noise and sit tight, I guess? Just seems so volatile in the AI, memory space. Feels somewhat ominous (not for AAPL).'


