Dan Scropos on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'I don’t own any Google products.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Fair points, for sure, but Apple started Apple Maps in about 2009 and was barely in the Fortune 100 at the beginning of that year. They now have unlimited resources and seemingly started the AI race on equal footing with everyone, including Google. Car, Vision Pro and now AI show a decade plus of absolutely no ability to bring a product to market. Couple that with Gemini being the soul of Apple Intelligence and I’m left semi-nauseous. Federighi needs to follow Giannadrea out the door. That should be the first thing John Ternus does when he becomes CEO.'
on Apple's WWDC26: What the analysts are saying - 'Dear Brandon, SIRI is not an LLM! So it doesn’t compare to “others”. Gene, you’re moving onto shaky ground.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'Careful, Gerber also makes knives – which I’d rather they not get hold of!'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Gregg, without reflecting on who developed it, I see a lot of potential. It does seem a bit (!) Gemini like, but who cares if it fits within Apple’s edge structure and delivers. However as I previously noted, I’ll hold off judgement until it’s on my devices.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'Very helpful discussion by all.Thanks. This keeps things in perspective. Still a fanboy of this website since before the Apple PED hosted LA conference. Must have been well over 10 years ago.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Salute the fruit! 🙂 My favorite part was the raccoon! I named him “Google” because he was a fruit stealer! 🙂'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Have you tried that spelling test on Android Google/Gemini? Just curious.'
on 'We call it Siri AI', said Mike Rockwell, as Apple hit $317.40, a new intraday high - 'Thats OK. I haven’t looked closely, but so far I haven’t seen anything in Siri AI that I would want to run on my M1 Max laptop. I’m still not interested in talking to computers, and I have no clue what I’d “talk” to Siri about.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Without me looking back at the timing, do the drops in the stock price align with the reorientation from the public to developers and to Tim’s ending caveats about the EU and China? Does that mean that the market was maybe expecting some product announcements or something?'
on 'We call it Siri AI', said Mike Rockwell, as Apple hit $317.40, a new intraday high - 'An old friend and very long-term fellow Apple shareholder texted me… just as AAPL’s share price went over a cliff… after hitting a new ATH. They asked, “why oh why does it always go down after these presentations?” They thought the presentation was excellent. MY RESPONSE: It was excellent. This “sell on the news” drop is just typical dark money stock manipulation driven by HFT A.I. algos. I will add, their playbook has nothing to do with Apple the company, and everything to do with Apple the trading opportunity. A tried and true strategy… by very short-term trading algorithms triggering other very short-term trading algorithms – manipulating the stock market with impunity. I will lay anyone odds that once it hits the so-called low-end of the new “trading range” – like clockwork, CNBC will invite talking heads that will say it is oversold. One thing is guaranteed. Apple will introduce new iPhones – and other products – this fall, with OS 27 running an all new A.I. driven SIRI. And it will be significant.'
on Horace Dediu sees Apple Intelligence as a tool to lift people up - 'Upvoted. Most analysts miss the impact of long term support. Support and product quality increase the value of used iPhones (or just the value of keeping an iPhone). That has several benefits; 1) Less losses to Android. Indeed switching is net positive to iPhone. 2) Lower TCO 3) Robust new iPhone sales because selling an older one reduces the net price. 4) And now, with memory prices impacting Android, used iPhones become very price competitive in the mid to low-end.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'The primary audience is developers who will get their hands on stuff right away. Since investors, analysts, and consumers also listen, Apple wisely avoided over promising. As Apple’s AI consumer releases roll out, we can expect new iPhones perhaps foldable, M5 Ultra systems, new Apple TV, and other catalysts. Meanwhile I’ll reduce some OOM options exposure. Perfect for the “out dumb” the market strategy.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - '” This seems like every other year. We need to see the price in a month or so.” You mean like July? I think we’re going to see a major reversal of today’s selloff in under three weeks. Applying the average of the lowest post WWDC reversals of the past 5 years (not exactly AAPL’s best years) to today’s Close you get a print of $317 by July expiry. That’s the average of the LOWEST reversals.'
on 'We call it Siri AI', said Mike Rockwell, as Apple hit $317.40, a new intraday high - 'It looks like Siri AI does work on my M1 MacBook Pro. More info to follow.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Exactly right Fred, upvoted. Craig is saying “we have the Apple Intelligence ready, even in your language. But regulations in the EU are impacting our Privacy policies and we won’t compromise on that issue. If you the users want full Apple Intelligence, then tell the EU (demand it!) that you support our privacy focus and help / make the regulators help us to deliver that to EU users.” As for China, it’s not clear if China and the US will allow a Google Gemini based Apple Intelligence to operate in China, or they will still require a Chinese AI tie-in like Apple’s partner Alibaba. Perhaps the successful integration of Gemini will spur faster and successful Alibaba integration for Chinese users. Important to note Apple China iPhone sales and overall China revenues have not suffered due to a perceived lack of AI, on the contrary, the iPhone 17 has met with resounding acceptance in China as the figures below show. China iPhone shipments per Omdia over past 2 quarters: Q4 2025 16.5 vs 13.1 +26% Q1 2026 13.1 vs 9.2 +42% 1H FY2026 29.6M vs 22.3M +32.7% China Revenues for Six months ended March 28, 2026 (millions) 46,023 34,515 +33 % (Amazing that both rose 33%!) A guesstimate of 75% being iPhone revenues gives 35,517M / 29.6M = $1200 ASP. That suggests strong IPhone Pro Model sales with memory upgrades along with solid base iPhone 17’s and maybe even Air’s. Here’s the fun part. If we assign less of the revenue to iPhones, say 70%, it would reduce ASP’s to $1088, still a strong showing by Pro Models offset by popular base iPhone 17’s as the value and subsidy eligible best seller. But that would mean a lot more Macs, iPads, AirPods and Services are being sold to cover the other remaining 30% revenue, giving a wide diversification to Apple’s China sales. If we assign more percentage, say 80% to iPhones, that would give an ASP of $1244, strongly suggesting the iPhone 17 Pro Max is THE preferred model. Personally, I’d go with between 70-75% of China revenues are iPhones and the rest distributed among Mac, iPad, AirPods and Services. This is all to say a continued delay for Apple Intelligence rollout in China is not holding back iPhone sales and Apple’s revenues in the region. Should I also mention that Rest of Asia revenues also increased 21% YoY for 1H FY2026, showing Apple’s appeal and strength in this emerging market area? While not numerically in the lead, again it shows Apple’s concentration on premium models with premium performance and software/hardware features garners the most spend by users overall. Android can have the midrange and whatever’s left of the budget smartphone market, AI isn’t going to be even offered or usable in those smartphones anyway, they in fact will just be so much churn in hardware and very little if any monetization potential for any Android AI, whereas Apple’s monetization will be increasing hardware sales, and incremental if not proportional subscription and AI related services sales, a multipronged approach.'
on 'We call it Siri AI', said Mike Rockwell, as Apple hit $317.40, a new intraday high - 'To me, the question of personal data protection may come down to what Apple calls the “system orchestrator”. I need to find out more about that.'
on 'We call it Siri AI', said Mike Rockwell, as Apple hit $317.40, a new intraday high - 'I’m downloading the betas now. Will have to buy a new laptop though as my M1 MacBook Pro is not new enough for Siri AI.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'I think Gene has every reason to be impatient with Apple. For a long time he was a big proponent of an Apple branded TV set, the car (he was almost right), and more recently the big AI promises. The “reveal” today should at the very least exceed the original WWDC claims those years ago.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - '” Vapor?” Thank you Horace. Sometimes (a lot of times) I think posters are cry babies not satisfied unless they get dessert before their meal. I’ve never heard anybody from WS or the blogosphere point out that Android or Windows could do any of the many things Apple demoed today. Nor has any of those cry babies ever expressed that they wanted those things. Aren’t these the same people that have stated the Vision Pro is a dead product, that Apple has quietly closed down further development. Sure didn’t sound that way to me. So what if it takes Apple another 6 – 12 months before a general release. None of the so-called leaders in “AI” have anything like an OS, or silicon that can duplicate what was revealed today – ON-DEVICE. I hope they’re serving Gerbers in Palo Alto for those still requiring it as primary sustenance.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'I trust everyone noticed that Gene Munster gave a shoutout to his son, Eddie, for getting everything “right.” I think that could be a COI… 😉'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'Vapor? New Siri AI features are available for developer testing starting today through the Apple Developer Program at developer.apple.com, across iOS 27, iPadOS 27, macOS 27, and visionOS 27. Siri AI will be available for developer testing in a future watchOS 27 beta. Siri AI will be available as a beta later this year for users with a supported device set to English, and Apple will quickly expand support for more languages. Apple Intelligence is available with support for these languages: English, Danish, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish, Turkish, Vietnamese, Chinese (simplified), Chinese (traditional), Japanese, and Korean. Some features may not be available in all regions or languages. For more details, visit apple.com/apple-intelligence. Apple Intelligence and Siri AI in iOS 27, iPadOS 27, macOS 27, watchOS 27, and visionOS 27 are available on iPhone 16 models or later, iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPad mini (A17 Pro), iPad models with M1 or later, Mac with M1 or later, Apple Vision Pro, Apple Watch Series 10 or later, Apple Watch Ultra® 2 or later, and Apple Watch SE® 3 when paired with an Apple Intelligence-enabled iPhone nearby. Mac, Apple Watch, and Apple Vision Pro users in the EU will be able to access Siri AI when set to a supported language. Siri AI will not be available initially in the EU in iOS and iPadOS. Apple is working hard to find a path forward that preserves its users’ privacy and security. Siri AI and the other new Apple Intelligence features will not be available in China while Apple works through regulatory requirements.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - '“What bothers me the most are three words… “Powered by Gemini.“” At some level, I agree Dan. But on another level I don’t. Apple relied on Google for YEARS for Google Maps, until Apple finally decided to come out with its own Maps app – which was a disaster (at first). Now I prefer Apple’s version, but the point here is that somehow Apple survived being dependent on Google for Maps for many years for what I consider one of the most important functions of a smart phone. I see many parallels today re AI – even if Apple is viewed as being behind by some, it is only according to the criteria selected by the evaluator.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Fair point, Dan. It makes me uncomfortable as well. Remember Google Maps…. What I’m hoping is that they’re developing their own. The problem is – Alphabet basically ripped off all the WWW info to create their AI monster (heck all AI did) – with no compunction. Apple can’t possibly do that and get away with it. I consider it morally questionable, but it’s also a kind of fait accompli.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Because of Apple’s inability to innovate when it comes to AI, we are now forced to guess what is going on behind the Gemini Intelligence curtain, like this is some sort of Wizard of Oz parody. All of the genetic capabilities, deeper reasoning, and multitasking will be powered by Google Gemini, if I am not mistaken. All we saw today is what Google can do, while Apple provides the privacy. Comparing CEOs is always difficult, but I don’t think we see this day if Steve Jobs is still here. And I certainly hope John Turnis gets this fixed quickly. I am leaving his name misspelled just to highlight how poor the AI quality is today. That’s the voice to text can’t figure out the context of who I am talking about demonstrates the AI failure far better than I could ever explain.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'Well, Mr. Munster’s version and John’s don’t match perfectly. However, Apple didn’t give an actual release date, so in that sense, Mr. Munster is right. That said, it makes perfect sense to me that they would hedge their bet after the disastrous earlier release date prediction. But THAT said, beta versions often don’t give you a firm release date. And Apple never said that they would be giving us that firm release date at the WWDC. So I consider this a rare misstep by Mr. Munster. PS – Daniel beat me to it – by seconds! I upvoted both Daniel and John.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'Well I am not sure what Munster should have wanted at WWDC? Even in the best of times they rarely have released completed products at this event. At least not for the consumer. They seem to have developer tools ready to be used to create the Apps integration. Did I find the presentation a bit mundane? Yes! Maybe the problem is AI does many mundane tasks for the users. That is one of its strengths. If the whole system Apple is creating works to make these tasks easier maybe we will have more time to work on more ambitious things with it. In the meantime it feels like we are looking at the beginning of a product not the end of it. As usual the day trading of the stock is not the reaction that counts in the long run.'
on Gene Munster: 'Everything they showed at the keynote is effectively vaporware' - 'They said that the beta version is available for developers now and for the rest of us this summer. The full release will be this fall, like every other year. Considering how badly they got beat up last time I can’t believe they would go out on a limb like that again. But it won’t take that long to find out. The stock went up a bit when they announced the new Siri, then crashed just a few minutes later. This seems like every other year. We need to see the price in a month or so.'
on Virtually live from Apple's WWWDC 2026 - 'Ok, Dan, so you are acknowledging that Apple has now “caught up” and will deliver what they promised 2 years ago, when they found out they couldn’t deliver in late 2024 or 2025 what they wanted, at the quality levels they and users expect Apple to deliver? Tell me who is doing it better, and has a better integrated AI that users can reasonably and seamlessly use across their devices. Is Android doing most all of these AI tasks currently? And which models of Android smartphones and PC’s can actively use these features that Android may provide? Is it only premium models which trail Apple about 3:1? Or is it available on more models but requires Android and PC users to send info off device and to one of a hundred server farms somewhere in the internet ether for processing and result return? And what of YOUR data after that, is it now expressly (through terms of usage and agreed by you) property of the AI for training and sale? I’m sure that many people don’t care / won’t care what happens with their data, having already given up on control over their data (what little they had), since Android has never been about privacy, and Windows, (well, it’s heading in the same direction), both are now more data collection and ad targeting than ever, and their AI versions will need into that. And I’ll submit Apple remains differentiated with Privacy as a hallmark operational feature of Apple Intelligence, now (hopefully) realized. You may not find that important or still timely, or that Apple is just as late as usual to the market and show, fair enough, plenty of company in that camp. But if Apple is now actually delivering on their WWDC 2024 promises with fully functioning Privacy focused and integrated AI by iOS 27 introduction in September of 2026, are they still behind or pretty much caught up in consumer AI? Will it attract Apple users who care about such things, or at least reinforce the principles and ideas that Privacy IS an important reason to choose Apple? And now that developers have seen what the underlying operating system can do, how quickly will they adapt their apps to be integratable into Apple Intelligence, Siri responses and actions, and shortcut generation? If Apple Intelligence really does work, how long of a lag will there be till Apps in the App Store will have a new label proclaiming: “Works with and optimized for Apple Intelligence, Siri AI, and iOS 27, iPadOS 27, VisionOS 27, tvOS 27, and MacOS 27 Golden Gate”? Like it or not, developers know Apple’s users are highly coveted spenders and adopters, and 130M+ iPhone 17 Pro and Air models will be already out there by iOS 27 introduction, as well as beginning sales of newest iPhone 18 Pros, as well as a existing install base of Mac M3 and better. That in itself will be almost double what Android can sell in a given calendar year, and it’s not clear at all if Android has their shit together across multiple makers and models in regards to AI. Well just have to see if these WWDC announcements spurs further iPhone 17 Pro & Air upgrades as well as iPad and Macs. I know my December purchased Mac Mini M4 16GB/512GB and iPhone 17 Pro & Air (wife’s) will get the latest Apple Intelligence enhancements.'


