Fun with Apple News: Jon and Kara do Zuck and Tim

In this week’s Lovett or Leave It, Jon Lovett and Kara Swisher dig deep into — and make light of — Apple, Facebook and so much more.

From Episode 197 “Caitlyn Jenner killed someone?” (Not safe for office listening until the Swisher interview, starting around 31:20):

Lovett: Aren’t you uncomfortable with where we’re at now, which is we have some of the largest companies on earth litigating matters of privacy, matters of public policy, matters of the safety of online communities, the reach of misinformation, all of this now — because of an absence of regulation — being determined based on, like, the whims of individual corporate leaders?

Swisher: Aren’t I uncomfortable? I’ve been screaming about it for years! I’ve been saying these companies are too powerful. So I’m like John the frigging Baptist here.

My take: What a gift is this medium — the podcast — that can jam together America’s techiest politico and its most political techie to crack wise about the issues on my front burner.

10 Comments

  1. Kirk DeBernardi said:
    In a final analysis, isn’t it all the same slop; this kind of Premier Power vs the Passive People? Been going on for centuries.

    It’s just that it’s instantly propagated — for better or worse — by commonly available ubiquitous devices of convenience.

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    May 2, 2021
  2. Gregg Thurman said:
    A pretentious podcast trying to be cute, and a monumental waste of time. Stopped listening after about 3 minutes.

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    May 2, 2021
    • “Stopped listening after about 3 minutes”

      Did you not read the intructions about skipping ahead to the 31 minute mark? .

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      May 2, 2021
      • Gregg Thurman said:
        (Not safe for office listening until the Swisher interview, starting around 31:20):

        Interpreted that to mean there was vulgarity, not stupidity.

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        May 3, 2021
        • Jon Lovett is an acquired taste. I was trying to spare my readers the culture shock. The Swisher interview is worthwhile, in my humble opinion.

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          May 3, 2021
  3. Thomas Larkin said:
    Let’s not forget that the First Amendment is meant, first and foremost, to severely limit the ability of government to limit speech by the private sector (individuals and non-government entities), and, from government mandates as to what persons in the private sector (individuals and non-government entities) do or do not publish (their decision, not the government’s). This notion of an end run around the first amendment by politicians (the government), in an attempt to somehow exert control over, limit, or compel speech under the guise of anti-trust enforcement, whether coming from the right or the left, seems highly questionable. IMHO.

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    May 2, 2021
  4. Some governments will remain woefully behind, especially when politicians pass laws to prevent digitization of files they don’t like (gun registrations at ATF, as one example). I don’t want gov’t intervention everywhere but laissez-faire on big issues ain’t solving any real problems either. The EU is already on to AI regs and autonomous weapons restrictions.
    Corporations, banks, privately-funded groups and people like Kara Swisher move itchy subjects out of the shadows when leaders ignore what matters. If that’s what it takes to even have a discussion about privacy, guns, race, AI or life, so be it. They also force concerns about oligarchy or maybe corporatocracy to the fore.
    Ms. Swisher’s interview with Miami Mayor Francis Suarez was ground-breaking as is nearly every podcast of hers I’ve heard.

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    May 3, 2021

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